Joe/Billy handholding in HCL (widescreen vs. fullscreen)

[verushka70]

In the countless times I've watched Hard Core Logo -- I would estimate upwards of 25, but less than 40 -- I completely missed this subtle little bit of handholding when Tiffany interviews Billy, and Joe interrupts.

My other AVI of HCL was not the widescreen version. Now I have the widescreen version in AVI format, and clearly the fullscreen version lopped off an important part of the left side of the frame! Watch what happens to Billy's right hand after he says "I suffer for his art" and jerks his thumb at Joe.

As Joe says "Whatever keeps you honest," he grabs Billy's hand and... caresses his wrist.

I slowed down the hand holding part on purpose so you can see how Joe first grabs Billy's hand, then slides his grasp down Billy's wrist.

This is so deliciously but heartbreakingly affectionate and slashy, I just -- eeeee!

Was this scripted, or ad libbed by HD and CKR? even more eeee!

If you want to dl a short AVI of this scene, go to https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1629560/handholding.avi. This embedded version is flash video.

Maybe other people were already aware of this, but I wasn't. Glad I noticed it.
*hearts HCL even more than before*
*even hearts Bruce McD for leaving it in*

Comments

[lucifuge-5.livejournal.com]

Closed not only to the journalist, but to Joe, too. Except for him putting his hand on Joe's chest at the end, after he's already decided to leave and is clearly feeling guilty, does he ever touch Joe affectionately like Joe touches him, kisses him, etc.? I don't think so.

*ponders* Mmm, I think one of the few times where we see him initiating things is during that concert where he's wasted to the point that even Joe is like 'what the fuck, Billy? get your act together'. (He rubs his head against Joe's back.)

On the other hand (and despite the fact that he's outwardly so passive/neutral) throughout most of the movie, no one can deny that Billy and Joe share a bond that few people can even attempt to break through. Even in his general, well, aloofness, he will back Joe up (punching the dude who tries to hit Joe in one of the concerts) no matter what (going ahead with the lie about Bucky Haight even though it's obvious it won't be long before it gets revealed as a hoax). Notice how he doesn't tell Joe off for insulting the reporter.

Perhaps, Joe is all about PDAs while Billy likes to keep it behind closed doors? Adding an extra layer of tension to their dynamic. Maybe this is part of the reason why Joe didn't want to sell out?

[verushka70.livejournal.com]

Mmm, I think one of the few times where we see him initiating things is during that concert where he's wasted to the point that even Joe is like 'what the fuck, Billy? get your act together'. (He rubs his head against Joe's back.)

That's true. But that's the only one I can think of. Maybe his aloofness breaks down when he's more vulnerable (like, drunk... or kicked out of Jenifur). *pets Billy*

On the other hand (and despite the fact that he's outwardly so passive/neutral) throughout most of the movie, no one can deny that Billy and Joe share a bond that few people can even attempt to break through. Even in his general, well, aloofness, he will back Joe up (punching the dude who tries to hit Joe in one of the concerts) no matter what (going ahead with the lie about Bucky Haight even though it's obvious it won't be long before it gets revealed as a hoax). Notice how he doesn't tell Joe off for insulting the reporter.

*nodsnodsnods* Very true.

Perhaps, Joe is all about PDAs while Billy likes to keep it behind closed doors? Adding an extra layer of tension to their dynamic. Maybe this is part of the reason why Joe didn't want to sell out?

Well, that's certainly the premise in some Joe/Billy fic. But if that's why Joe didn't want to sell out, it would mean Joe was protecting Billy in a way. Kind of romantic. Ah, Joe.