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verushka70 ([personal profile] verushka70) wrote2015-09-06 02:36 pm

"stromos" (straight homos per THR), validated discoveries (r/t TW), Hemlock Grove

Prefacing this with: yes, I do live under a rock wrt the Internet. It's due to chronic tendinitis and also not having time (and not allowed to use smartphone during work hours in front of patients -- which is basically almost all my work time) (and no dedicated PC at work) (also work network firewall on what can/can't be accessed) (also patient/visitor Wifi utterly sucks ass). So I have missed a ton of shit in the past decade... and I will continue to miss a ton more.This is not necessarily a bad thing. It just is what it is.

I've noticed this gay-looking visual trend among mainstream male stars in TV/movies growing over the years & wondered where it came from & how conscious it is (ie, w/actors' knowledge/permission?). Turns out, totally conscious/intentional these days. But I didn't see this THR article (or the ONTD that linked it) until today.

Feeling fairly smug about noticing this stuff in near total hype-isolation -- being validated by mainstream entertainment press.

Introducing the Stromo! Why Straight Male Stars are Going Gay(ish)
Channing Tatum, Nick Jonas, Chris Hemsworth and others have moved beyond metrosexual. Think of these stars as "straight" plus "homo" — modern, lady-loving male actors who amp up their appeal to gay audiences for pride and profit.

As a long time consumer of straight and gay porn, I wonder if "stromo" actors realize the visual aesthetics they're pursuing began in gay porn a long time ago -- and if that would change their minds. Probably not. All money, even gay money, is green. Progress... right?\o?

Don't really like the term "stromo" -- it doesn't convey the pandering. Pandering should be conveyed -- pejoratively, the secret leftist/anarchist in me says.

In other news -- I'm almost all caught up with TW. Haven't seen the last 2 eps (including mid-season finale of S5) yet; I'll get to 'em (they're not on Hulu yet). While binge-watching, I kept seeing "Russell Mulcahy" in TW opening credits. I knew the name was familiar but couldn't place it, so I Googled him.

He's a former producer/director of US Queer As Folk. Which explains so much about the twink porn-y visual aesthetics of TW. I again feel pretty validated about figuring something out on my own while being nearly totally isolated from all the TW hype of the last 4 years because Internet-rock-dwelling-under. I'd already watched 2 & 1/2 seasons of TW in near total Internet isolation before I found out Jeff Davis was gay (while Googling for slashy pics). So it took me until S5 to figure out Russell Mulcahy directed QAF.

Sadly, Teen Wolf S4-S5 kind of just suck. It's pretty much what happened on The Vampire Diaries, so I'm not surprised... these supernatural-high-school-kid shows with teen demographics all follow the same formulas. Sigh.

In other happy news, the 3rd (and last) season of Hemlock Grove will premiere on Netflix October 23. Now there is a supernatural-high-schoolers show with werewolves and vampires that I can enjoy for more than just the eye candy (though that's there, lol).

Part of why it's so great? While it has teen supernatural characters, it's not aimed at a teen demographic. It has Famke Jannsen and Lily Taylor, not to mention Kandyse McClure and Aaron Douglas of BSG. Also way too much underage illegal activity (drinking, smoking, drugs), plus generally way too much sex, nudity, and swearing to be aimed at a purely teen demographic. Netflix is like an upstart, streaming HBO these days... yay.
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[personal profile] glitteryv 2015-09-30 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, I can't say I've ever heard of "stromo" (maybe that's a term that's used in straight and/or mainstream media? *is confused*). Though, yeah, I do agree with your opinion of it sounding more negative than not. I'm guessing that someone wanted to 're-invent' metrosexual (since that word is more indicative of early 2000s pop culture).

Oh, I'm sorry to hear that S4 of your show went into 'meh' territory. I wonder why TV shows kinda lag in the 4th season.

Also way too much underage illegal activity (drinking, smoking, drugs)

Hahaha, that reminded me of my double-take in the earlier seasons of TVD where they had about 90% of the (then underage) characters drinking whiskey at, like, three in the afternoon. IIRC, the reasoning behind it was that alcoholic beverages would lessen the cravings for blood. It was a little weird at first, but it got out of hand when the majority of the cast became a supernatural creature. #Ohshowyouweresogoodoncebefore
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[personal profile] glitteryv 2015-10-09 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Upon further reflection, I think "stromo" is a term THR either coined and was hoping would catch on, or what you said about reinventing metrosexual. Haven't seen it before (or since, actually).

Probably part of the reason why that word hasn't caught/didn't catch on is that it'd be pretty easy to misspell it to "strobe" or even tweak it up to "stromboli" or even "trombone". IJS. LOL!

"But Alaric's back!"

I did get spoiled on Alaric's return via a random post somewhere online. Considering he was 1/2 of my OTP (Alaric/Damon), I can't deny I'm curious to see how the return (resurrection?) played out. I think I will eventually get around watching the rest of TVD seasons on Netflix...

7th Heaven. Oh, that takes me back! IIRC, I watched the show on and off because it used to air right before some other show I watched (but it wasn't Buffy, Angel or Charmed so I don't even know why I kept tuning in). In some ways, it was the "teenager version" of that other super cheesy TV show...I want to say "Touched by an Angel"? Only without the paranormal angle. But, yeah, the problems were ridiculous and everything was the TV show equivalent of uber-bland wallpaper.

(Also, yes, the actor who played the pastor was revealed to be a pedophile not so long ago. *shudders with you*)
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[personal profile] glitteryv 2015-10-10 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, no worries, V! IIRC, it was a post on ONDT over on LJ that spoiled me about Alaric's return to the show. In all truth, I haven't watched TVD from the beginning of S5. I was kinda 'meh' about watching it when it came back from hiatus, but I got distracted by something else. And then, I wanted to wait until S5 was on Netflix (which *just* happened).

I do think that Alaric/Damon had mad chemistry from day 1. Ficwise, some of it works for me and some of it reads OTT (since it's pretty easy to make Damon OTT).Right now, I'm subscribed to this fic, patiently waiting it to get finished (since I hate reading WIPs).

To be honest, I'm surprised that there hadn't been a real scandal regarding 7th Heaven. From what I remember, the biggest one was when Jessica Biel appeared in a Maxim-style, kinda soft pornish photshoot for a magazine that doesn't exist anymore. This must have been around S3 or S4. Biel wanted out of the show (she had just gotten past 20 years old, I think, and was raring to do more exciting roles). I think she was written off and went on to do a few so-so movies. But, yeah, up until this whole thing with the actor who played the pastor, there really hadn't been anything ~tarnishing~ the show's image. #ohwell

due South relied a lot on the magical realism aspect. Like, A LOT. Which nearly overwhelmed the darker aspects of the show. I remember wishing that the latter seasons had kept a bit of the realism from the earlier seasons. I mean, I'm all for cracky aspects, but S3 and 4 really upped the ante there.

Of course, this is where the fandom helped create a more complete picture: by providing backstory and/or more "real world" aspects to the show's canon. Regardless of the fact that I've grown to dislike due South, I can't deny that it was a unique show. *hands*
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[personal profile] glitteryv 2015-10-13 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Initially, I was into Jeremy/Tyler (like, wayyyy back in the show), but that ship got left on the dust after Alaric/Damon kinda became one of secondary almost-pairings. ;)

I absolutely refuse to read WIPs. Well, unless the author has explicitly stated that the story is unfinished. I've been burned way too many times for me to put any faith into WIPs (even if the author is super prolific/disciplined about posting every day/week/month).

My due South break-up story is 2-fold.

On one hand, it was a very intense case of fannish burnout. I was in the fandom for 8 years--with the last 3 1/2 being very active (writing, running challenges, betaing, running rewatches). There was a point around 2009 where many people left the fandom and a whole crop of new people came in. So it kinda ended up feeling like I was in a sorta repetitious cycle.

On the other hand, I grew bored with the canon. It felt constrictive. And all that made me look at the flaws of the show to the point that I wasn't getting any enjoyment at all. Like, whatever was it that made me feel connected to the show died and never came back.

So then, I fell out of love with due South and the fandom. But a lot of people around me kept squeeing (and rightfully so since I'm not Fandom Police. Nor I want to be). Eventually, it became too much (my annoyance at hearing people talk about the show/fandom or coming across a dS post). My frustration became active dislike so I unfollowed a lot of people and comms.

For the life of me, I don't know what is it about an RPF musician fandom that speaks to me or why I'm all starry-eyed over Steve Rogers and co. But I am and that's that.

Mind you, there are things I'll be forever grateful for, that I can look back at my time in the fandom and not regret at all: I learned how to write fic, I learned fannish etiquette, I got to meet some wonderful people...so it's not as if it was all bad. It just ran its course (for me).

At this point, I highly doubt I'd go back to that fandom again (I'd first have to find the characters attractive or feel that affinity/spark I once felt). *throws hands in the air*
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[personal profile] glitteryv 2015-10-14 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think that the fics I found for Jeremy/Tyler also sank that pairing for me (they were wonky because a lot of them were really sappy?) I didn't know then that TVD does not tend to have really great writers (who write non-canon ships or the juggernauts of Salvatore incest or Damon/Elena). :(

Funnily enough, I got into C6D some three or so years after I was in due South. I liked the idea of all these different universes that had versions of Fraser, RayK, etc. My problem was that there weren't enough fics about C6D shows written by people who were also in the due South fandom. Because, let me tell you: the way people (who aren't in due South fandom) write Joe (HCL),Daryll Van Horne (Eastwick), etc is REALLY different from people who are in due South. For me, it became very frustrating that I'd be super excited about Leoben, for example, and not find a lot of stories that weren't Kara/Leoben (for example).

I also think that the people who got into due South right as I was falling out of love with it/leaving the fandom weren't inspired to write non-due South fics. My impression could be totally wrong, but that is how I saw it.

Re: Musician RPF

It's become a lot more prevalent since the 1990s (did you know that there was Metallica RPF slash? Because I didn't) and then the 2000s (with Popslash). I'm pretty sure there's Duran Duran RPF floating around, but I have no idea what the majority of the stories would be like (mostly canon? Simon Le Bon/authorial self-insert? Somehow, I doubt they'd do a lot of AUs. Or, maybe they do because of videos like "Hungry Like the Wolf" or "Ordinary World". *hands*)
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[personal profile] glitteryv 2015-10-22 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
There's RPF for every living or dead person you can imagine. I think that in the case some branches, though, they tend to hang out in other platforms (basically message boards) so that's why we don't hear about them.

I have about 3 posts that I need to clean up (html-related stuff) with yearly recs in several fandoms. My goal is to post the first one (for 2012 fanworks) sometime this weekend so you might want to keep an eye out for that. :)

[The recs don't get MCU-heavy until 2014, btw.]

FWIW, I don't read fic for every show I watch. Some are too stylized (like ROME, The Wire, and even True Detective) for most writers to take on. And there are others that I'm totally satisfied with what I see on the screen (How To Get Away with Murder, for example).

Gotham I dropped halfway through S1. I sorta felt meh about the whole Batman (and assorted villains)'s origin stories. I waved good-bye to AHS around episode 5 or 6 last season. Ryan Murphy is notorious for building up a lot of stories and not knowing how to get them to the endpoint. I'm still feeling quite disappointed with the way the plot meandered and fizzled out during Coven.

Based on what I've heard about Hotel, I think it's better for me to bypass it.
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Re: Aaaauuuuugh! that WIP fic you linked is KILLING ME!

[personal profile] glitteryv 2015-10-13 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, V., I didn't link it to you so that you'd read it right now. #Sorry

Hopefully the author will resume posting and it'll be all there for you to enjoy the last remaining chapters. Here's hoping.

(I've yet to read it myself because I can't deal with WIPs. Right now, I'm subscribed to about 40 stories. Fifteen or so are in the last 5 or less chapters before the ending. I don't mind subscribing because I've already got tons of things to read. Every 4 or 5 months, I do check out all of the subscriptions to make sure they're being updated. There have been instances of fics that haven't been updated in a year so I drop them).
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Re: Aaaauuuuugh! that WIP fic you linked is KILLING ME!

[personal profile] glitteryv 2015-10-14 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
I figured as much. ;)

FWIW, I wasn't into using the subscriptions feature until I got into MCU. This is the first fandom I've been in where authors post stuff in chaptered form. Eventually, the list of fics I wanted to check whether or not had been updated grew too large to manage so I started subscribing to them. As per my last count, I am subscribed to 78 stories and/or authors.

Nowadays, I wait until I get that notification saying that XYZ author has posted chapter 12/12. After I shimmy for a brief moment, I go over to AO3, unsubscribe from that fic, and add it to my bookmarks (sometimes writing a brief note of why I want to read if the tags and summary aren't descriptive enough). If it's one I've been waiting forever and day to read, then I'll download it to my tablet.

Right now, my bookmarks are in the very low 500s (510? 512?) which is just about the most fics I can manage having on a TBR without feeling terrible.

Since I read about a fic or 2 per night, I'm constantly deleting and adding stories to my bookmarks.

I'm more a Search/what do I want to read today? fic reader.

I'm like that with my bookmarks. Sometimes, I'm in the mood to read shorter 5k to 10k fics. Othertimes, I want to curl up with a story that's 20 - 50k. And then, once a week I'll crack open a 100k story to enjoy for a few nights.
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Re: Aaaauuuuugh! that WIP fic you linked is KILLING ME!

[personal profile] glitteryv 2015-10-22 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Egad. I could never manage that many bookmarks... or RSSes, for that matter. Yikes. I appreciate that the ability is there, though.

Part of the reason why I've got so many is because I've gotten into reading fandoms way later (like MCU, Inception, Adam Lambert RPF). So there's a lot of stuff to wade through (etc).

The other part is a mix of laziness and convenience, really. Since I'm already bookmarking on AO3, all I have to do if I want to read something is to dl directly to my tablet.

I remember coming across inclusion and exclusion tags in the searches, but I can't say I've used them a lot. Mostly because 90% of the time I find fics by following rec links. So it is v., v. rare that I'll go to AO3 and type up what I'm looking and not looking for.

Still, it's a very handy option so thumbs' up for you. :)
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Re: Aaaauuuuugh! that WIP fic you linked is KILLING ME!

[personal profile] glitteryv 2015-10-25 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes, being able to dl fic instantly is AWESOMECAKES!

It got to the point where I uninstalled Calibre since the only reason I used it was to convert docs to epubs for fics posted on LJ and the like. I know there are several reasons why people like Calibre (including organizing TBR piles and the like). But I've only used it to convert files so it got deleted from my laptop. :)