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verushka70) wrote2007-05-02 03:01 pm
verushka70) wrote2007-05-02 03:01 pm
L&O:SVU, VMars, Joe/Jerry fic thinking aloud
Last night was a happy night of TV for me. First of all, I am done with classes and I could actually WATCH TV without feeling guilty that I wasn't studying or worrying that watching TV would lower my grade on a test the next day!
Second of all, Veronica Mars is back! OK, SPOILERS -- I just don't see the Veronica/Piz thing happening. I wasn't that fond of Duncan, but I think Duncan was cuter than Piz. I just don't see it. Oh, I see how Piz longs for Veronica, and I know he's been carrying a torch for her, and he has my sympathies... but I don't think she feels the same way about him. end spoilers And if the preview of next week's episode is any indication, I think Logan still carries a torch for Veronica. And I think, secretly, she carries one for him, too -- if only she hadn't deleted that voicemail he left her! She is so damned headstrong and stubborn. And that's one of the things that makes her likable, but it's also her tragic flaw. I mean, Logan even called in to a radio station to dedicate a song to her (okay, yeah, under pressure from a little girl)! That was so corny it was cool. And sweet. I don't know. I think Logan settled for Parker because Veronica wouldn't have him and he's trying to move on. Things are, I believe, about to get really fucked up. And they better not cancel Veronica Mars because I'm so tired of liking shows that only last three seasons, dammit!
Third of all, hot damn L&O:SVU was fantastic last night. I don't even normally watch it as often as I watch the regular L&O or L&O:CI -- and not nearly as religiously as I have watched BSG or VM (or, in the past, DS & XF). But I have to admit, the last few episodes, especially the (SPOILERS!) Olivia & her new brother storyline, have been riveting. end spoilers Mariska Hargitay should get an Emmy for last night's episode. There's just no two ways about it. And I'm looking forward to the next ep with the focus on Elliot's character. I can see why fans see a sexual chemistry between them -- it's there, but then there is so much else between them.
I think I'm on my way to finishing up the HCL/FTWHTWD xover Joe Dick/Jerry Bines story. As usual, this hasn't been accomplished in less than 10,000 words. Hell, it's already just over 10,000 words and they've only just met and eyeballed each other. Joe's spent the first 10,000 words hitch hiking/drifting eastward across Canada after a short acoustic tour, having cold, anonymous, and unfulfilling sex (and doing a lot of drugs and drinking) with men & women along the way... because he's searching, longing, wanting, needing Billy and doing whatever he can to tamp that down. He's basically adrift because Billy's been gone for a few years now.
So to summarize, the first 10,000 words is Joe doing "whatever I want. I don't know. Fuckin' around. I get by. Play a little fuckin' acoustic gig once in a while. I'm Joe Dick. People come and see that." (as he says to Bruce at he beginning of HCL, in response to the question "So, Joe, what have you been doing for five years?")
So Joe's first meeting w/Bines is quite a kick in the head for him. I'm thinking of adding a dynamic whereby Joe's badassness is dwarfed by Bines' true badassness, having already been to prison more than once, and also having killed people. So Joe, who is normally pushy, aggressive, possessive and in pursuit of Billy, suddenly runs up against someone who is more quietly dominant than him. But that's kind of what he needs. Because in all his pursuit of Billy, Joe never had the chance to really be the pursued, the bottom, whatever. Nor could he ever really be sure or secure that he was The One for Billy. (And if he was, why'd Billy leave?)
This is the sort of temporary chance he gets with Jerry Bines. Because Bines just has that quiet but not unkind authority, and he'll make up his mind and just do what needs to be done. Joe is Mr. Multiple Misdemeanors... whereas Jerry is King Felony, but quietly authoritative, not pushy or outspoken like Joe. And Joe is already beaten down enough -- though in denial about it -- from Billy's "abandonment" (I'm not saying that's what Billy did, only that Joe might see it that way) that he really longs to be taken down, taken in, just taken and possessed in ways that he has never really been able to let Billy either because Billy wouldn't or couldn't or Joe just never let him. So it's like a "mini-do-over" for Joe, or at least that's what he can pretend, and so he can achieve some measure of solace and closure that all the liquor and booze and meaningless, anonymous sex in the world hasn't yet been able to give him.
So, I just have to write the Joe/Jerry hook-up, hot sex, solace & closure part now. That'll probably take another 10,000 words... sigh.
Even though this is a Joe/Jerry xover story, and there's no Billy flashbacks or memories, there's just Joe obliviating himself with liquor, drugs, and lots of sex with strangers, I realize now it's been written such that Billy basically haunts Joe through the entire story, and the meeting with Jerry is the first (maybe only) opportunity Joe has to exorcise the ghost of Billy -- truly confront it, face the fact that he's haunted, let it wash over him, drown himself in it, and then let it go. Or at least, that's how it is turning out. I never know exactly how things are going to go in a story until I'm writing it. And even then, things seem like they can take on a life of their own and then they (the characters) dictate what's going to happen. Like, I'm just channeling them or something, and they're writing it through me. It's weird. I wish I could get motivated enough by truly fictional characters of my own to get into that headspace. Maybe someday. In the meantime, hey, I do it because I love it and I finally can because I've got the time and space. Yay.
ETA: Did I say angst? I didn't. Okay, angst. It's Joe angst. Because angst-y Joe is so... so... compelling.
Second of all, Veronica Mars is back! OK, SPOILERS -- I just don't see the Veronica/Piz thing happening. I wasn't that fond of Duncan, but I think Duncan was cuter than Piz. I just don't see it. Oh, I see how Piz longs for Veronica, and I know he's been carrying a torch for her, and he has my sympathies... but I don't think she feels the same way about him. end spoilers And if the preview of next week's episode is any indication, I think Logan still carries a torch for Veronica. And I think, secretly, she carries one for him, too -- if only she hadn't deleted that voicemail he left her! She is so damned headstrong and stubborn. And that's one of the things that makes her likable, but it's also her tragic flaw. I mean, Logan even called in to a radio station to dedicate a song to her (okay, yeah, under pressure from a little girl)! That was so corny it was cool. And sweet. I don't know. I think Logan settled for Parker because Veronica wouldn't have him and he's trying to move on. Things are, I believe, about to get really fucked up. And they better not cancel Veronica Mars because I'm so tired of liking shows that only last three seasons, dammit!
Third of all, hot damn L&O:SVU was fantastic last night. I don't even normally watch it as often as I watch the regular L&O or L&O:CI -- and not nearly as religiously as I have watched BSG or VM (or, in the past, DS & XF). But I have to admit, the last few episodes, especially the (SPOILERS!) Olivia & her new brother storyline, have been riveting. end spoilers Mariska Hargitay should get an Emmy for last night's episode. There's just no two ways about it. And I'm looking forward to the next ep with the focus on Elliot's character. I can see why fans see a sexual chemistry between them -- it's there, but then there is so much else between them.
I think I'm on my way to finishing up the HCL/FTWHTWD xover Joe Dick/Jerry Bines story. As usual, this hasn't been accomplished in less than 10,000 words. Hell, it's already just over 10,000 words and they've only just met and eyeballed each other. Joe's spent the first 10,000 words hitch hiking/drifting eastward across Canada after a short acoustic tour, having cold, anonymous, and unfulfilling sex (and doing a lot of drugs and drinking) with men & women along the way... because he's searching, longing, wanting, needing Billy and doing whatever he can to tamp that down. He's basically adrift because Billy's been gone for a few years now.
So to summarize, the first 10,000 words is Joe doing "whatever I want. I don't know. Fuckin' around. I get by. Play a little fuckin' acoustic gig once in a while. I'm Joe Dick. People come and see that." (as he says to Bruce at he beginning of HCL, in response to the question "So, Joe, what have you been doing for five years?")
So Joe's first meeting w/Bines is quite a kick in the head for him. I'm thinking of adding a dynamic whereby Joe's badassness is dwarfed by Bines' true badassness, having already been to prison more than once, and also having killed people. So Joe, who is normally pushy, aggressive, possessive and in pursuit of Billy, suddenly runs up against someone who is more quietly dominant than him. But that's kind of what he needs. Because in all his pursuit of Billy, Joe never had the chance to really be the pursued, the bottom, whatever. Nor could he ever really be sure or secure that he was The One for Billy. (And if he was, why'd Billy leave?)
This is the sort of temporary chance he gets with Jerry Bines. Because Bines just has that quiet but not unkind authority, and he'll make up his mind and just do what needs to be done. Joe is Mr. Multiple Misdemeanors... whereas Jerry is King Felony, but quietly authoritative, not pushy or outspoken like Joe. And Joe is already beaten down enough -- though in denial about it -- from Billy's "abandonment" (I'm not saying that's what Billy did, only that Joe might see it that way) that he really longs to be taken down, taken in, just taken and possessed in ways that he has never really been able to let Billy either because Billy wouldn't or couldn't or Joe just never let him. So it's like a "mini-do-over" for Joe, or at least that's what he can pretend, and so he can achieve some measure of solace and closure that all the liquor and booze and meaningless, anonymous sex in the world hasn't yet been able to give him.
So, I just have to write the Joe/Jerry hook-up, hot sex, solace & closure part now. That'll probably take another 10,000 words... sigh.
Even though this is a Joe/Jerry xover story, and there's no Billy flashbacks or memories, there's just Joe obliviating himself with liquor, drugs, and lots of sex with strangers, I realize now it's been written such that Billy basically haunts Joe through the entire story, and the meeting with Jerry is the first (maybe only) opportunity Joe has to exorcise the ghost of Billy -- truly confront it, face the fact that he's haunted, let it wash over him, drown himself in it, and then let it go. Or at least, that's how it is turning out. I never know exactly how things are going to go in a story until I'm writing it. And even then, things seem like they can take on a life of their own and then they (the characters) dictate what's going to happen. Like, I'm just channeling them or something, and they're writing it through me. It's weird. I wish I could get motivated enough by truly fictional characters of my own to get into that headspace. Maybe someday. In the meantime, hey, I do it because I love it and I finally can because I've got the time and space. Yay.
ETA: Did I say angst? I didn't. Okay, angst. It's Joe angst. Because angst-y Joe is so... so... compelling.
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